Byteoff - 2020 Brutal review and personal taste winner

Jonny

Well-known member
Wow, that's brutal. Though, did you ever consider the fact that some of these entries were probably made closer to the deadline and therefore didn't have the time to get developed/polished further? This is technically a game jam after all - making an empty demo is already pretty decent for something made in less than a week (in my case, 2~3 days).

Too true, too true.

Also, there's no way to govern if people are spending 12 months or 2 days on them. I know its all a bit of fun but I've always thought the 30 time limit was a bit strange when people know the competition is coming up a year in advance. It's not really something that can be judged fairly as nobody knows who 'cheated' and who stuck to the 30 days 'jam'.

There's a way to give crit in a honest way without putting people down so harshly. I haven't read through all the comments yet but tbh this kinda angers me because there's kids using NesMaker who are easily influenced by put downs and yeah, probably sensitive to someone basically saying what they've tried to do is total shite.

People are trying to have fun with it and learn not get roasted like they're on comedy central. Honesty is great but this is just trying to get a laugh by being horrible to creators. Mad props for all the effort - if someone's going to all that work, you know they're desperate for someone to find them funny.
 

Jonny

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kevin81

Member
Also, there's no way to govern if people are spending 12 months or 2 days on them. I know its all a bit of fun but I've always thought the 30 time limit was a bit strange when people know the competition is coming up a year in advance.
I think that's why they reveal the contest theme a month beforehand. Although I feel like some entries "forced" the theme in their submissions, where the game isn't timeless-themed at the start of the development cycle, but added in an existing game as an afterthought.

That being said, I do agree bashing new enthousiasts over a contest on a time constraint isn't the way to go.
 

Jonny

Well-known member
I totally forgot about the theme thing tbh.

The reality of this is that when byte-off 2021 comes around I probably won't enter. I'd rather avoid having some self-righteous talentless clown ripping my work to shreds.
 

dale_coop

Moderator
Staff member
Also, there's no way to govern if people are spending 12 months or 2 days on them. I know its all a bit of fun but I've always thought the 30 time limit was a bit strange when people know the competition is coming up a year in advance. It's not really something that can be judged fairly as nobody knows who 'cheated' and who stuck to the 30 days 'jam'.
In fact, there was a theme revealed at launch of the competition... Also, every games had to be made with the just released version of NESmaker, a few days before the start.
 

Basty

Active member
I totally forgot about the theme thing tbh.

The reality of this is that when byte-off 2021 comes around I probably won't enter. I'd rather avoid having some self-righteous talentless clown ripping my work to shreds.

Oi! I resent that statement. Clowns get paid. ;(
 
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Logana

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Their is definitely a lot worse music than what I submitted for the byte-off on the nes, just check out orb 3d
 

Basty

Active member
Their is definitely a lot worse music than what I submitted for the byte-off on the nes, just check out orb 3d

Yeah, there definitely is. But Orb 3D ain't honestly that bad.

Wait till you hear such masterpieces as;
Athena, Tom Swayer, Hikari No senshi Photon, Little Redhood and Insector X.

There won't be enough Q-tips to handle the amount of wax your ears start vomiting with in two minutes listening to those.
 

Basty

Active member
Now whoah, whoah there mister. Let's not get too excited.
There's only so much those rocking tunes can handle. Now these mentioned examples are something even boys at Konami can't handle.
 

mouse spirit

Well-known member
I hope everyone got over this one......
I think most of you did great and anyone I personally talked to at the time of the competition seemed to be giving it their all.

I agree with the mermaid game being basty's choice.I loved so much about it.
Platycat was also a personal fave. Barddbi does great work.

.............
Did basty make friends from this?
Kinda doubtful, but I doubt that was the goal.

But was it exactly what was disclaimered to you up front?
(if as long as it was there even a little bit at the start of things)
Yes.

Could it have been better placed? Like on a forum that's raw and honest?
Possibly...

So some good advice is to avoid posts like this IF you are the exact type of person that the disclaimer was for.
I'm just saying, as to not purposely lead yourself into a situation that may end up upsetting you like this one. Luckily nobody had a laser gun! Or even worse, a laZer gun!

Sometimes ignoring the person or post will do the trick or get the message across. Instead of maybe fuming or possibly saying things you regret, or just isn't normally like you, IF you don't agree with them.....
I'm just saying, for future us, and from personal experience.
I go through my text or message and have to take out shit all the time. It never helps a situation such as this to respond in haste or with a sour heart or tongue.

My two cents..... You guys are great.
Like I said,hopefully all is forgiven.

You mostly all did very very well. I say mostly because SOME people did cheat .........
I'd love to see some of these games finished too!
 
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Logana

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@mouse spirit "Platycat was also a personal fave" Glad you liked it, funnily enough i had to actually start from scratch on it half way tthrough the byte-off because my computer corrupter litterly everything on my pc, I really should finish it, my plan for the byte off was actually to be a take on the super mario brothers format with the 4 level worlds and the areas usually going in the order of Overworld -> underground -> Underwater -> Castle but i couldn't finish the last two stages on time because of the corruption, im also really happy that i was able to hide the developing issues well but the actual system i used for the auto running was held together by a thread XD
 

PasseGaming

Active member
I've had em' blocked since this post. There is no reason to ever make a thread like this unless you are going to offer constructive feedback for each game "reviewed". Even then, there is no reason to put someone down over it, this post was clearly made to be "edgy" at best. Plain and simple. I'm fairly sure I've said something similar in a earlier post.

I know I wont be joining in the next ByteOff. Not worth the headache or getting slammed. Plus, I wasn't a fan of them bending the rules for more submissions. That was part of the challenge was getting it ALL done in a month. I'll just make games at my own pace and hang out on the sidelines and continue to contribute to the community the best I personally can. An ignore those that provoke trouble.
 

Basty

Active member
Did basty make friends from this?
Kinda doubtful, but I doubt that was the goal.

To be fair, while Logana was actually one of the people who got a lot of trashing in this "games" and especially "music" wise since he was involved in so many projects,
we're getting along quite nicely.

Also while Jonny and I aren't exactly talking to each other in any personal level, we do get along just fine as well. :)


I've had em' blocked since this post. There is no reason to ever make a thread like this unless you are going to offer constructive feedback for each game "reviewed". Even then, there is no reason to put someone down over it, this post was clearly made to be "edgy" at best. Plain and simple. I'm fairly sure I've said something similar in a earlier post.

If this wasn't a feedback of any sort then I really dunno what to say other than; You take away with it whatever you want and discard the rest that doesn't please you.
 
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