so, i know , its not a wise thing to do, trying to take one thing from a module and put in another, but i really wanna know where the xScroll, xSroll_hi, etc values are stored in the scrolling module, because i cant find it on user variables, on zero page ram, overflow ram, or object variables, if i know where its stored maybe i can go step by step to put scrolling on my own games, thanks for the help. version 4.1