Well..I forgot to introduce my self... I'm born and live here in brazil, so, to me, the ways to learn about make NES games are a little bit more hard, but I go ahead because I really have a great felling for NES games and love it! I until try to learn 6502 assembly programing; starts with nerdynights stuff, I got something about collisions maps, for sure looks very complex, but I'm still trying more sucess studing; I'm not a programmer but still do not understand what the meaning that "you ARE a programmer", you can work like a programmer or do studes in a university about BE a programmer but, you only ARE a programmer when you are doing or finish this things...well, I do not want TO BE a programmer, dont wanna program cyborgs of terminator or too mucha machines in 6502, I just wanna know how to program a game, somepeople do not understand this...this is no good...but o.k. for now I will get the oportunity to ask for a chat here,a forum, in portuguese or spanish or both, I think another people will like this too or not, ahhh and nerdy nights or famicom party seems to be not complete to me, maybe for the reason of do not compreend the language maybe not, and the comunity need a book or tutorial more complet in the future, meanwhile the the two ones are amazing and wonderfull point of start, verry verry good I supose to mean, and one more time...thanks for all to the new8bitsheroes!